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	<title>Comments on: Mad Magazine: Marie Claire&#8217;s Bias Against Muslim Women</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-6130</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points here, but what about Marie Claire&#039;s viewpoint on women generally?  Like most &quot;women&#039;s&quot; magazines, it&#039;s obsession with beauty products and fashion suggest that women&#039;s true value is in their appearance.  Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points here, but what about Marie Claire&#8217;s viewpoint on women generally?  Like most &#8220;women&#8217;s&#8221; magazines, it&#8217;s obsession with beauty products and fashion suggest that women&#8217;s true value is in their appearance.  Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mian</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-6055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The was a great line in my mosque where I grewup.  &quot;If you do no believe in an islamic education for your kids try igorance instead.&quot;  That seems to fit Marie Claire&#039;s article.  Can a muslim women marry a nonmuslim?  Yes, the punishment for adultory in islam for a man and woman is to marry another nonmuslim or someone who commits adultory.  It is in the Quran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The was a great line in my mosque where I grewup.  &#8220;If you do no believe in an islamic education for your kids try igorance instead.&#8221;  That seems to fit Marie Claire&#8217;s article.  Can a muslim women marry a nonmuslim?  Yes, the punishment for adultory in islam for a man and woman is to marry another nonmuslim or someone who commits adultory.  It is in the Quran.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-5972</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess, I&#039;m a shallow bimbo, Broomstick, since I read fashion magazines and even worked at one once upon a time. 

Not having Marie Claire lying around here in Kiev, though, I can&#039;t comment either way on this piece. However, some of your statements about Maureen, the Belgian woman, did catch my eye. 

I have to say, I feel that most people who actively turn to fundamentalism &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; lack purpose. Doesn&#039;t mean that their circumstances and inner worlds aren&#039;t complex as the next person&#039;s, but if you crave that kind of rigidity, I think it&#039;s almost a given that you&#039;re trying to fill a pretty vast empty space. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything condescending about pointing that out. We all have empty spaces inside ourselves, and we fill them to the best of our ability. Religious fundamentalism offers a refuge in its relative simplicity. Most human beings, I would bet, feel better when they&#039;re swept up in a singular fervour as opposed to dealing with doubt and temperance. 

Judgment between religious fundamentalists and people who don&#039;t adhere to their ways is a two-way street as well. I don&#039;t doubt that the woman who told her daughter that Satan loves women in short skirts while staring at me (guess what I was wearing at the time?) felt really good about herself when making such a statement. Equally, I feel pretty good when I look at someone like that and recoil from the tedious minutiae of their rituals. We don&#039;t, and can&#039;t, embrace each other&#039;s differences unquestioningly. Maybe the least we can do is leave each other alone. 

The veneer of journalistic objectivity only takes you so far. Deep down inside, we all judge one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess, I&#8217;m a shallow bimbo, Broomstick, since I read fashion magazines and even worked at one once upon a time. </p>
<p>Not having Marie Claire lying around here in Kiev, though, I can&#8217;t comment either way on this piece. However, some of your statements about Maureen, the Belgian woman, did catch my eye. </p>
<p>I have to say, I feel that most people who actively turn to fundamentalism <strong>do</strong> lack purpose. Doesn&#8217;t mean that their circumstances and inner worlds aren&#8217;t complex as the next person&#8217;s, but if you crave that kind of rigidity, I think it&#8217;s almost a given that you&#8217;re trying to fill a pretty vast empty space. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything condescending about pointing that out. We all have empty spaces inside ourselves, and we fill them to the best of our ability. Religious fundamentalism offers a refuge in its relative simplicity. Most human beings, I would bet, feel better when they&#8217;re swept up in a singular fervour as opposed to dealing with doubt and temperance. </p>
<p>Judgment between religious fundamentalists and people who don&#8217;t adhere to their ways is a two-way street as well. I don&#8217;t doubt that the woman who told her daughter that Satan loves women in short skirts while staring at me (guess what I was wearing at the time?) felt really good about herself when making such a statement. Equally, I feel pretty good when I look at someone like that and recoil from the tedious minutiae of their rituals. We don&#8217;t, and can&#8217;t, embrace each other&#8217;s differences unquestioningly. Maybe the least we can do is leave each other alone. </p>
<p>The veneer of journalistic objectivity only takes you so far. Deep down inside, we all judge one another.</p>
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		<title>By: rochelle</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-5921</link>
		<dc:creator>rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;m going to have to take a MAJOR beef with the OP&#039;s criticism on the honor suicide article.

I did not get the impression whatsoever that the article was in anyway blaming Islam. Perhaps it was blaming radical Islamist political resurgency -- but as we all know, this isn&#039;t Islam, and these political movements do have a negative impact on women&#039;s status and rights. So what&#039;s the problem? Are we not allowed to denounce radical Islamist/fundamentalist movements now because its equivilant to blaming Muslims?

Also, the article DID discuss cultural issues, which you claim it hadn&#039;t. And while it is arguable whether honor suicides are a &quot;mainstream phenomenon&quot; (what does that mean, exactly? Its just those nasty Kurds so its not &#039;real&#039; Turkey?), I&#039;m confused as to what your point is. We can only discuss abhorrent social phenomenon if its &#039;mainstream&#039;? Well that dude who killed the hijabimartyr in Germany wasn&#039;t &#039;mainstream&#039; so any article about that is racist towards white people? The logic does not make sense.

Honor killings and suicides are a huge issue in Turkey and I&#039;m glad that Marie Claire decided to publish something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m going to have to take a MAJOR beef with the OP&#8217;s criticism on the honor suicide article.</p>
<p>I did not get the impression whatsoever that the article was in anyway blaming Islam. Perhaps it was blaming radical Islamist political resurgency &#8212; but as we all know, this isn&#8217;t Islam, and these political movements do have a negative impact on women&#8217;s status and rights. So what&#8217;s the problem? Are we not allowed to denounce radical Islamist/fundamentalist movements now because its equivilant to blaming Muslims?</p>
<p>Also, the article DID discuss cultural issues, which you claim it hadn&#8217;t. And while it is arguable whether honor suicides are a &#8220;mainstream phenomenon&#8221; (what does that mean, exactly? Its just those nasty Kurds so its not &#8216;real&#8217; Turkey?), I&#8217;m confused as to what your point is. We can only discuss abhorrent social phenomenon if its &#8216;mainstream&#8217;? Well that dude who killed the hijabimartyr in Germany wasn&#8217;t &#8216;mainstream&#8217; so any article about that is racist towards white people? The logic does not make sense.</p>
<p>Honor killings and suicides are a huge issue in Turkey and I&#8217;m glad that Marie Claire decided to publish something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: rochelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA -- I really appreciated what you had to say. I don&#039;t read enough Marie Claire to have an opinion about this issue (actually I haven&#039;t read any of the articles mentioned) but I do appreciate different perspectives from first hand sources, even if they are outside of my worldview (actually, especially if they&#039;re outside of my worldview.) Thanks for sharing with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA &#8212; I really appreciated what you had to say. I don&#8217;t read enough Marie Claire to have an opinion about this issue (actually I haven&#8217;t read any of the articles mentioned) but I do appreciate different perspectives from first hand sources, even if they are outside of my worldview (actually, especially if they&#8217;re outside of my worldview.) Thanks for sharing with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamerican Muslimah</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-5907</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamerican Muslimah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA, 

Well, it would be nice to see Marie Claire do an article about a Muslim woman without the complete focus on her &quot;Muslimness&quot;. For instance, can we have a Muslim woman speaking about finances, fashion (without the overplayed &#039;Muslim-women-are-pushing-the enevlope-by-wearing-colorful-scarves dynamic&#039;), real estate or something else. Both articles I read about Muslim women still had the exotic, oppressed, trying-to-free subtext.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA, </p>
<p>Well, it would be nice to see Marie Claire do an article about a Muslim woman without the complete focus on her &#8220;Muslimness&#8221;. For instance, can we have a Muslim woman speaking about finances, fashion (without the overplayed &#8216;Muslim-women-are-pushing-the enevlope-by-wearing-colorful-scarves dynamic&#8217;), real estate or something else. Both articles I read about Muslim women still had the exotic, oppressed, trying-to-free subtext.</p>
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		<title>By: forsoothsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>forsoothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>come ON...asra&#039;s article was none of the things you claimed. it said nothing that was not 100% true. she made no untrue generalizations or conflated religion with culture at all. i am beginning to think that MMW only approves of highly subjective, biased media stating only that Islam is fantastic. seriously. i know people who have stopped reading this blog, including myself, because of tireless droning complaints about not biased coverage but about coverage that&#039;s not biased the way you want it to be. not every article can talk about every muslim woman and highlight their diversity and their empowerment etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come ON&#8230;asra&#8217;s article was none of the things you claimed. it said nothing that was not 100% true. she made no untrue generalizations or conflated religion with culture at all. i am beginning to think that MMW only approves of highly subjective, biased media stating only that Islam is fantastic. seriously. i know people who have stopped reading this blog, including myself, because of tireless droning complaints about not biased coverage but about coverage that&#8217;s not biased the way you want it to be. not every article can talk about every muslim woman and highlight their diversity and their empowerment etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Rochelle</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>Rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Marie Claire was supposed to have social responsibility as their shtick? I seem to remember reading a lot about fair trade when I was reading a copy on a flight to London...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Marie Claire was supposed to have social responsibility as their shtick? I seem to remember reading a lot about fair trade when I was reading a copy on a flight to London&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RCHOUDH</title>
		<link>http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/09/4538/comment-page-1/#comment-5877</link>
		<dc:creator>RCHOUDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly ever read Marie Claire so I was unaware of the Islamophobic bent apparent within some of their articles. Thanks MMW for giving the heads up on this! (this makes up for you guys exposing me to Complex mag :) Now I&#039;ll know to scrutinize whatever future articles I come across of theirs regarding Muslim women. But I will admit that I did come across a good article of theirs once about Iraqi women refugees who resort to prostitution in Jordan:

http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/international/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly ever read Marie Claire so I was unaware of the Islamophobic bent apparent within some of their articles. Thanks MMW for giving the heads up on this! (this makes up for you guys exposing me to Complex mag :) Now I&#8217;ll know to scrutinize whatever future articles I come across of theirs regarding Muslim women. But I will admit that I did come across a good article of theirs once about Iraqi women refugees who resort to prostitution in Jordan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/international/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex" rel="nofollow">http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/international/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex</a></p>
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		<title>By: navya</title>
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		<dc:creator>navya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following MMW for the last few weeks. I think you folks are doing a great job on highlighting the pros and cons of media coverage and reporting of matters related to Muslim women. As a non-muslim reader, I find all your articles extremely thought-provoking, very helpful in breaking the stereotype and provide some very fascinating perspectives on complex issues. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following MMW for the last few weeks. I think you folks are doing a great job on highlighting the pros and cons of media coverage and reporting of matters related to Muslim women. As a non-muslim reader, I find all your articles extremely thought-provoking, very helpful in breaking the stereotype and provide some very fascinating perspectives on complex issues. Keep up the good work!</p>
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