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	<title>Comments on: Whose Revolution? Critiquing Seyran Ates and her Islamic Sexual Revolution</title>
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	<description>Looking at Muslim women in the media and pop culture</description>
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		<title>By: RCHOUDH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCHOUDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too find Ates&#039; comparison between the Prophets Isa (AS) and Muhammad (SAWS) to be deplorable. She&#039;s clearly very confused and will be another one of those Muslims whose recommendations ring hollow.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too find Ates&#8217; comparison between the Prophets Isa (AS) and Muhammad (SAWS) to be deplorable. She&#8217;s clearly very confused and will be another one of those Muslims whose recommendations ring hollow.</p>
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		<title>By: muffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>muffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for bringing up the point about asexuality. Ates&#039; statement implying that Jesus is a worse role model for being asexual was ludicrous and insulting to both asexuals and Christians. 

This brings up a larger issue: people aren&#039;t just sexually oppressed because they can&#039;t get sex, but also because they&#039;re expected to be sexual when they don&#039;t want to be. What about Muslim women who are forced into marriage at a young age, such as that 12-year-old girl in Yemen who died in childbirth? In cases such as that, Muslim girls are expected to be sexual creatures when they actually shouldn&#039;t be. That&#039;s just as much of a problem as expecting Muslim women to be sheltered chaste angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for bringing up the point about asexuality. Ates&#8217; statement implying that Jesus is a worse role model for being asexual was ludicrous and insulting to both asexuals and Christians. </p>
<p>This brings up a larger issue: people aren&#8217;t just sexually oppressed because they can&#8217;t get sex, but also because they&#8217;re expected to be sexual when they don&#8217;t want to be. What about Muslim women who are forced into marriage at a young age, such as that 12-year-old girl in Yemen who died in childbirth? In cases such as that, Muslim girls are expected to be sexual creatures when they actually shouldn&#8217;t be. That&#8217;s just as much of a problem as expecting Muslim women to be sheltered chaste angels.</p>
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		<title>By: Muslimah Media Watch &#187; The Revolution Will not be Sexualized: More on Seyran Ates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muslimah Media Watch &#187; The Revolution Will not be Sexualized: More on Seyran Ates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Note: For Alicia&#8217;s take on this, see her post from yesterday.  Tags:Islam Needs a Sexual Revolution, sexual revolution, sexuality, Seyran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Note: For Alicia&#8217;s take on this, see her post from yesterday.  Tags:Islam Needs a Sexual Revolution, sexual revolution, sexuality, Seyran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy,

That&#039;s a good point, and something many feminist activists particularly in pre-dominantly Muslim countries are dealing with. 

A rights-based framework is really important and useful in this context because not only because is it valid in Islamic terms but it is also universal (especially if such laws are extended to non-Muslims who live in a Muslim majority nation states). But Islam does appear to live a double life in many communities, where dominant and typically androcentric interpretation of the Quran are at odds with the ethical interpretation of the Quran (in which women and men are spiritually, psychologically, and mentally equal, and therefore should be treated as such). A rights framework would refer heavily on the latter interpretation and is often used as a tool (for lack of a better word) by activists and reformists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point, and something many feminist activists particularly in pre-dominantly Muslim countries are dealing with. </p>
<p>A rights-based framework is really important and useful in this context because not only because is it valid in Islamic terms but it is also universal (especially if such laws are extended to non-Muslims who live in a Muslim majority nation states). But Islam does appear to live a double life in many communities, where dominant and typically androcentric interpretation of the Quran are at odds with the ethical interpretation of the Quran (in which women and men are spiritually, psychologically, and mentally equal, and therefore should be treated as such). A rights framework would refer heavily on the latter interpretation and is often used as a tool (for lack of a better word) by activists and reformists.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked this article. I&#039;m interested in what you said &quot;[t]hese seeds can come in the form of faith-based dialogue and rights-based legislation.&quot;  Do you think a rights framework is useful for this kind of activism in religious contexts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked this article. I&#8217;m interested in what you said &#8220;[t]hese seeds can come in the form of faith-based dialogue and rights-based legislation.&#8221;  Do you think a rights framework is useful for this kind of activism in religious contexts?</p>
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